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		<title>By: Zack</title>
		<link>http://www.chovy.com/personal/hp-3820-two-blinking-lights-error/#comment-127674</link>
		<author>Zack</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 02:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was beautiful. lol</description>
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		<title>By: haiki</title>
		<link>http://www.chovy.com/personal/hp-3820-two-blinking-lights-error/#comment-3687</link>
		<author>haiki</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 23:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.chovy.com/personal/hp-3820-two-blinking-lights-error/#comment-3687</guid>
		<description>Think about a HP ink cartridge that has a warranty. Bad ink cartridge, color bad, light ink which appears watery, what-ever, they give you another one. That's the way a warranty works. You buy a recycled ink cartridge, with no HP warranty. It may work momentarily, but then you get these same messages, remove cartridge. Why should my printer shut down after purchasing a recycled ink cartridge? But then if you buy an HP ink cartridge, your printer is up and running again. Or until that time HP thinks you have printed long enough, even if you have plenty of ink. HP forces you, according to HP predetermined usage, in order for your printer to work, to buy their ink cartridges, or HP will shut your printer down. 

Don't focus on the ink cartridge, focus on the fact HP, and other printer manufacturers, stop your printer from working, because of some silly game they are playing of cheating customers before the ink runs out, or wrong ink standards, or what-ever. I say, go ahead send these stupid messages, but don't stop my printer from working. This is anti-competitive, and  in violation of anti-trust laws.

To be perfectly clear

Hewlett Packard recycles their ink cartridges by promoting that HP cartridges be returned for recycling, using a self addressed, stamped envelope. Allowing HP, through their “refurbishing and reselling” effort to conserve resources, using the various recycling facilities of manufacturers around the world contracted by HP. Thus, the mere fact that there also are other recyclers available to refurbish, and recycle ink cartridges, but except for lower cost, and the free choice of the consumer, HP has restricted the consumer the full use, and the operation of HP printers.

Smith and Roberson’s Business Law, ninth edition. West Publishing. Chapter 43; ANTITRUST. 
“Characterizing a type of restraint as per se illegal therefore has a significant effect on the prosecution of an antitrust suit. In such a case, the plaintiff need only show that the type of restraint occurred, she does not need to prove that the restraint limited competition.....Tying arrangements. A tying arrangement occurs when the seller of a product, service, or intangible (the "tying" product) conditions its sale on the buyers purchasing a second product, service, or intangible (the "tied" product) from the seller....Because tying arrangements limit buyers' freedom of choice and may exclude competitors, the law closely scrutinizes such agreements.”

Hewlett Packard has, unbeknownst to customers who purchased HP printers (tying product), tied as a condition, the purchase of new HP ink cartridges (tied product), or HP recycled ink cartridges, through the use illegal anti-competitive consumer practices.

After all, what are we talking about, it's a ball point pen refill morphed into a printer ink cartridge. It’s a recycled auto part! Again, I say Hewlett Packard, and the rest of the conspirators, play your silly games by cheating consumers on ink cost, and supplies. I say go ahead! But don’t stop me from the use of my printer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think about a HP ink cartridge that has a warranty. Bad ink cartridge, color bad, light ink which appears watery, what-ever, they give you another one. That&#8217;s the way a warranty works. You buy a recycled ink cartridge, with no HP warranty. It may work momentarily, but then you get these same messages, remove cartridge. Why should my printer shut down after purchasing a recycled ink cartridge? But then if you buy an HP ink cartridge, your printer is up and running again. Or until that time HP thinks you have printed long enough, even if you have plenty of ink. HP forces you, according to HP predetermined usage, in order for your printer to work, to buy their ink cartridges, or HP will shut your printer down. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t focus on the ink cartridge, focus on the fact HP, and other printer manufacturers, stop your printer from working, because of some silly game they are playing of cheating customers before the ink runs out, or wrong ink standards, or what-ever. I say, go ahead send these stupid messages, but don&#8217;t stop my printer from working. This is anti-competitive, and  in violation of anti-trust laws.</p>
<p>To be perfectly clear</p>
<p>Hewlett Packard recycles their ink cartridges by promoting that HP cartridges be returned for recycling, using a self addressed, stamped envelope. Allowing HP, through their “refurbishing and reselling” effort to conserve resources, using the various recycling facilities of manufacturers around the world contracted by HP. Thus, the mere fact that there also are other recyclers available to refurbish, and recycle ink cartridges, but except for lower cost, and the free choice of the consumer, HP has restricted the consumer the full use, and the operation of HP printers.</p>
<p>Smith and Roberson’s Business Law, ninth edition. West Publishing. Chapter 43; ANTITRUST.<br />
“Characterizing a type of restraint as per se illegal therefore has a significant effect on the prosecution of an antitrust suit. In such a case, the plaintiff need only show that the type of restraint occurred, she does not need to prove that the restraint limited competition&#8230;..Tying arrangements. A tying arrangement occurs when the seller of a product, service, or intangible (the &#8220;tying&#8221; product) conditions its sale on the buyers purchasing a second product, service, or intangible (the &#8220;tied&#8221; product) from the seller&#8230;.Because tying arrangements limit buyers&#8217; freedom of choice and may exclude competitors, the law closely scrutinizes such agreements.”</p>
<p>Hewlett Packard has, unbeknownst to customers who purchased HP printers (tying product), tied as a condition, the purchase of new HP ink cartridges (tied product), or HP recycled ink cartridges, through the use illegal anti-competitive consumer practices.</p>
<p>After all, what are we talking about, it&#8217;s a ball point pen refill morphed into a printer ink cartridge. It’s a recycled auto part! Again, I say Hewlett Packard, and the rest of the conspirators, play your silly games by cheating consumers on ink cost, and supplies. I say go ahead! But don’t stop me from the use of my printer.</p>
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		<title>By: Gojko Kasich</title>
		<link>http://www.chovy.com/personal/hp-3820-two-blinking-lights-error/#comment-1900</link>
		<author>Gojko Kasich</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Mar 2006 19:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.chovy.com/personal/hp-3820-two-blinking-lights-error/#comment-1900</guid>
		<description>I just talked to them . . . 

And "Angelina" told me to take it to a Best Buy Service Center.  She couldn't tell me if they have the parts, or how much it would cost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just talked to them . . . </p>
<p>And &#8220;Angelina&#8221; told me to take it to a Best Buy Service Center.  She couldn&#8217;t tell me if they have the parts, or how much it would cost.</p>
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		<title>By: Search engine marketing tutorials</title>
		<link>http://www.chovy.com/personal/hp-3820-two-blinking-lights-error/#comment-1077</link>
		<author>Search engine marketing tutorials</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 17:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.chovy.com/personal/hp-3820-two-blinking-lights-error/#comment-1077</guid>
		<description>Hi, I thought I'd just leave this message on your blog. I hope you don't mind. I've been trying to find blogs where people are talking about &lt;a href="http://www.search-engine-marketing-firm.biz" rel="nofollow"&gt;Search engine marketing tutorials&lt;/a&gt; and when I was looking, I found this one on this post. You have helped me in some way. Anyway, I want to say thank you before I go off to find some more info about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I thought I&#8217;d just leave this message on your blog. I hope you don&#8217;t mind. I&#8217;ve been trying to find blogs where people are talking about <a href="http://www.search-engine-marketing-firm.biz" rel="nofollow">Search engine marketing tutorials</a> and when I was looking, I found this one on this post. You have helped me in some way. Anyway, I want to say thank you before I go off to find some more info about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.chovy.com/personal/hp-3820-two-blinking-lights-error/#comment-1022</link>
		<author>Kevin</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 20:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.chovy.com/personal/hp-3820-two-blinking-lights-error/#comment-1022</guid>
		<description>Well they are not replacing them anymore!


Chat Transcript Begins Here
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Gary
Hello Kevin.


Gary
Welcome to HP Total Care for DeskJet products.


Gary
How may I help you today?


Kevin 
hi


Kevin 
my 3820 has stopped working properly


Kevin 
i get the bottom two lights flashing (paper jam, and power lights) simultaneously.


Gary
Please tell me if the cartridge carriage moves almost to the center automatically, when you open the top cover of the printer.


Kevin 
no


Kevin 
they move all the way to the left


Kevin 
one pieces of paper rolls through


Gary
It does mean that there is a carriage stall.


Kevin 
and then


Kevin 
they move all the way to the right


Gary
Turn off the printer by pressing the Power button on the front panel of the printer. 2. Open the top door on the printer and leave it open. 3. Press the Power button to turn on the printer. a. Printer activity continues for approximately 20 to 25 seconds (feed roller activity, alternating between turning forward and reversing). b. After activity stops, the Power light and Feed light (bottom two lights) will now be flashing.


Kevin 
done


Gary
4. Pressing the Feed (middle) button results in activity and activity duration similar to the power up cycle noted above, with the Power light and Feed light continuing, uninterrupted, to flash in unison. 5. Pressing the Power button after step 3b, have completed will immediately power down the printer with no further activity or flashing lights.


Kevin 
i'm not following Gary


Kevin 
you want me to push the middle button?


Gary
Yes


Kevin 
i did... and it does the exact same thing... exactly... the cartridges end up all the way to the right


Gary
How about the lights on the front panel, Kevin?


Kevin 
still blinking together Gary


Kevin 
i was just trying to put in new inks


Kevin 
and can't get them to stop in the middle


Kevin 
i hope i didn't spend $50.00 for nothing... : (


Gary
The issue at hand seems to be related to a physical hardware malfunction, which would require an onsite diagnosis.


Gary
You can either get the printer repaired or buy a new printer.

Gary
Can I suggest you a cheap and best model in the market, Kevin?


Kevin 
yes... is it an HP? are there any HP'S that last longer than a year Gary? i'm losing faith


Gary
There are printers which have been in use from 4 to 5 years, Kevin.


Gary
I suggest you to go for Deskjet 3940 which costs only $49.99


Kevin 
and the inks for the 3940? are they comparable to the 78 and 15?


Gary
No, Kevin


Kevin 
these don't last very long Gary


Kevin 
do they last longer?


Gary
They use 21 and 22 cartridges.


Gary
If you want to use same cartridges, you can buy an Officejet.


Kevin 
i appreciate you suggestion Gary


Kevin 
just a little dissapointed...


Gary
Would you like to use the same cartridges, Kevin?


Gary
Did you already buy some more ink?


Kevin 
no... i was hoping you were going to tell me that the 21 and 22 lasted longer... that's all


Kevin 
i'll look at the 3940 Gary


Gary
Do you want me to arrange a callback to order a new printer, Kevin?


Gary
Do you want me to share the printer specifications, Kevin?


Kevin 
call back Gary?


Gary
Yes. So that you can order it on phone.


Gary
http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/product_detail.do?storeName=storefronts&#38;landing=printers&#38;category=inkjets&#38;subcat1=deskjet&#38;catLevel=2&#38;product_code=C9050A%23B1H


Gary
A web page must be popped up in your computer. Please have a look at the printer in the web page.


Kevin 
thank you... but no thanks


Kevin 
i think i'm all set Gary


Gary
http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/product_detail.do?storeName=storefronts&#38; landing=printers&#38;category=inkjets&#38;subcat1=deskjet&#38;catLevel=2&#38;product_code=C9050A%23B1H


Gary
You are welcome and thank you for using HP Total Care and providing us an opportunity to serve you through Real-Time Chat.


Gary
A copy of our chat session will be e-mailed to you shortly. Please contact us again if you require any further assistance.


Gary
Take care. Bye.




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well they are not replacing them anymore!</p>
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<p>Gary<br />
Hello Kevin.</p>
<p>Gary<br />
Welcome to HP Total Care for DeskJet products.</p>
<p>Gary<br />
How may I help you today?</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
hi</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
my 3820 has stopped working properly</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
i get the bottom two lights flashing (paper jam, and power lights) simultaneously.</p>
<p>Gary<br />
Please tell me if the cartridge carriage moves almost to the center automatically, when you open the top cover of the printer.</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
no</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
they move all the way to the left</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
one pieces of paper rolls through</p>
<p>Gary<br />
It does mean that there is a carriage stall.</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
and then</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
they move all the way to the right</p>
<p>Gary<br />
Turn off the printer by pressing the Power button on the front panel of the printer. 2. Open the top door on the printer and leave it open. 3. Press the Power button to turn on the printer. a. Printer activity continues for approximately 20 to 25 seconds (feed roller activity, alternating between turning forward and reversing). b. After activity stops, the Power light and Feed light (bottom two lights) will now be flashing.</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
done</p>
<p>Gary<br />
4. Pressing the Feed (middle) button results in activity and activity duration similar to the power up cycle noted above, with the Power light and Feed light continuing, uninterrupted, to flash in unison. 5. Pressing the Power button after step 3b, have completed will immediately power down the printer with no further activity or flashing lights.</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
i&#8217;m not following Gary</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
you want me to push the middle button?</p>
<p>Gary<br />
Yes</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
i did&#8230; and it does the exact same thing&#8230; exactly&#8230; the cartridges end up all the way to the right</p>
<p>Gary<br />
How about the lights on the front panel, Kevin?</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
still blinking together Gary</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
i was just trying to put in new inks</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
and can&#8217;t get them to stop in the middle</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
i hope i didn&#8217;t spend $50.00 for nothing&#8230; : (</p>
<p>Gary<br />
The issue at hand seems to be related to a physical hardware malfunction, which would require an onsite diagnosis.</p>
<p>Gary<br />
You can either get the printer repaired or buy a new printer.</p>
<p>Gary<br />
Can I suggest you a cheap and best model in the market, Kevin?</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
yes&#8230; is it an HP? are there any HP&#8217;S that last longer than a year Gary? i&#8217;m losing faith</p>
<p>Gary<br />
There are printers which have been in use from 4 to 5 years, Kevin.</p>
<p>Gary<br />
I suggest you to go for Deskjet 3940 which costs only $49.99</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
and the inks for the 3940? are they comparable to the 78 and 15?</p>
<p>Gary<br />
No, Kevin</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
these don&#8217;t last very long Gary</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
do they last longer?</p>
<p>Gary<br />
They use 21 and 22 cartridges.</p>
<p>Gary<br />
If you want to use same cartridges, you can buy an Officejet.</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
i appreciate you suggestion Gary</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
just a little dissapointed&#8230;</p>
<p>Gary<br />
Would you like to use the same cartridges, Kevin?</p>
<p>Gary<br />
Did you already buy some more ink?</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
no&#8230; i was hoping you were going to tell me that the 21 and 22 lasted longer&#8230; that&#8217;s all</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
i&#8217;ll look at the 3940 Gary</p>
<p>Gary<br />
Do you want me to arrange a callback to order a new printer, Kevin?</p>
<p>Gary<br />
Do you want me to share the printer specifications, Kevin?</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
call back Gary?</p>
<p>Gary<br />
Yes. So that you can order it on phone.</p>
<p>Gary<br />
<a href="http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/product_detail.do?storeName=storefronts&amp;landing=printers&amp;category=inkjets&amp;subcat1=deskjet&amp;catLevel=2&amp;product_code=C9050A%23B1H" rel="nofollow">http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/product_detail.do?storeName=storefronts&amp;landing=printers&amp;category=inkjets&amp;subcat1=deskjet&amp;catLevel=2&amp;product_code=C9050A%23B1H</a></p>
<p>Gary<br />
A web page must be popped up in your computer. Please have a look at the printer in the web page.</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
thank you&#8230; but no thanks</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
i think i&#8217;m all set Gary</p>
<p>Gary<br />
<a href="http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/product_detail.do?storeName=storefronts&amp;" rel="nofollow">http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/product_detail.do?storeName=storefronts&amp;</a> landing=printers&amp;category=inkjets&amp;subcat1=deskjet&amp;catLevel=2&amp;product_code=C9050A%23B1H</p>
<p>Gary<br />
You are welcome and thank you for using HP Total Care and providing us an opportunity to serve you through Real-Time Chat.</p>
<p>Gary<br />
A copy of our chat session will be e-mailed to you shortly. Please contact us again if you require any further assistance.</p>
<p>Gary<br />
Take care. Bye.</p>
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		<title>By: financiering</title>
		<link>http://www.chovy.com/personal/hp-3820-two-blinking-lights-error/#comment-1016</link>
		<author>financiering</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 09:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.chovy.com/personal/hp-3820-two-blinking-lights-error/#comment-1016</guid>
		<description>Hi, I think you are totally right. Great! - :) Susan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I think you are totally right. Great! - :) Susan.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Pelcher</title>
		<link>http://www.chovy.com/personal/hp-3820-two-blinking-lights-error/#comment-607</link>
		<author>Greg Pelcher</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2006 03:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.chovy.com/personal/hp-3820-two-blinking-lights-error/#comment-607</guid>
		<description>I have a HP Deskjet 3820 which has stopped working. I have the 2 bottom loghts Flashing, and have replaced the Cartridges and have not found a paper jam. Can someone guide me as to a fix or a replacement.

Greg Pelcher 
444 Thrushwood Lane
Webster,NY 14580
585-671-1811 home
585-265-1810 work</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a HP Deskjet 3820 which has stopped working. I have the 2 bottom loghts Flashing, and have replaced the Cartridges and have not found a paper jam. Can someone guide me as to a fix or a replacement.</p>
<p>Greg Pelcher<br />
444 Thrushwood Lane<br />
Webster,NY 14580<br />
585-671-1811 home<br />
585-265-1810 work</p>
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